View Full Version : OK, so just who's in the league?

05-09-2008, 08:14 PM
From the Vermont-to-PBL press release:

The Frost Heaves, winners of titles in each of their two ABA seasons, will renew rivalries with the PBLís Maryland Nighthawks, Rochester Razorsharks and Wilmington (N.C.) Sea Dawgs, all of which competed in the ABA two seasons ago. In addition, the Manchester Millrats, Vermontís cross-river rival, will join the ranks of the PBL, which launched in January with a successful inaugural season.

The PBL also includes teams in Chicago; Reading, Pa.; Rockford, Ill.; and the Quad Cities, with expansion teams set for Toronto and Buffalo.

Dallas? Jacksonville?

Is the PBL doing the logical thing and pulling back the footprint a bit?

05-09-2008, 08:24 PM
From the Vermont-to-PBL press release:

Dallas? Jacksonville?

Is the PBL doing the logical thing and pulling back the footprint a bit?

I don't think there's a chance in Hades for Dallas or Jax...unless the Tycoons somehow come in as the Dallas team. I'm hearing though that this won't be the case, even though they have a good relationship with the league.

05-09-2008, 09:43 PM
With all of this northeast addition you really can't call it pulling back the footprint, but Jacksonville is sure to be gone and unless the Tycoons decide to jump the Dallas entry is done too.

Dallas Defenders and Jacksonville JAM/SLAM for Manchester Millrats and Vermont Frost Heaves is a good trade.

05-10-2008, 06:15 AM
With this New York/New England cluster wouldn't you almost have to consider jumping if your the Albany Patroons or the Pittsburgh Xplosion? Seems like travel expenses would be much more manageable.

Frank Mart
05-10-2008, 07:13 AM
Without CBA/PBL merger the key would be in that it goes well together there will join Halifax, Quebec, Montreal, Vermont and Manchester.

If PBL expands towards the NE and to current franquises of Rochester (New York), Wilmington (Delaware), Maryland, Buffalo (NY) and Toronto (expansion teams), ABA's canadians franquises is added + Vermont + Manchester (New Hampshire) and CBAs Pittsburgh and Albany (includes East Kentucky).

Strongest super minor league PBL:

Halifax, Quebec, Montreal, Toronto, Manchester, Vermont

Rochester, Buffalo, Albany, Wilmington, Pittsburgh, Maryland

Chicago, Quad City, Rockford, Reading, East Kentucky and Asian All Stars Team

Dallas, Arkansas and Jacksonville folded?


05-10-2008, 07:18 AM
Frank, the Wilmington in the PBL is Wilmington, NC, not Wilmington, DE, which makes it the furthest south team right now and not an easy trip for anyone. Closest PBL team is Maryland.

05-10-2008, 09:09 AM
If the Patroons, Xplosion and Miners switch to the PDL, I think it would make sense for the others(Cavalry, Skyrockets and Silverados) to join also. But there is also the possible return of the Yakima Sun Kings, who don't really have a team close by, in either league. Oh yes, and Augusta would fit nicely with Wilmington.

05-10-2008, 10:44 AM
Their travel costs shrink dramatically in the PBL, as they would pick up rivalries with Rochester and Manchester (both in the AHL, and cities the Albany papers regularly cover). The rent the CBA pays for their offices in Albany (if any) would be minimal compared to chopping a dozen flights a year.

The Tycoons could head to the CBA, where they fit better with Oklahoma and RGV. Should Arkansas go there too, it would be a natural cluster.

Rockford and Quad Cities were in the CBA too, so there are some natural crossover.

Ken, Steelheads fan
05-10-2008, 12:59 PM
The City of Rockford was in the CBA and the area known as Quad Cities was also in the CBA. True enough, but both teams folded for a reason (and they HAD regional rivalries). If the Steelheads remained in the CBA, they would have folded too. The natural crossover will not be a factor. There is not enough fan interest for the costs involved.

...and yeah, the economy is brutal now.