ABA stats or boxscores????

[etown]

I'm just starting to follow this league as a couple of my favorite old NBA players have surfaced in it.

Anyways, I've been tracking basketball players in leauges all over the globe, and I have never had such a hard time finding stats or boxscores as I have for the ABA. Even leagues that don't have websites in English have easier info to find than this.

So does anyone have a clue where to go for ABA boxes and/or stats? Or is it pretty much a futile cause?

[Sam Hill]

When I met you in the restaurant
You could tell I was no debutante
You asked me what's my pleasure
A movie or a measure?
I'll have a cup of tea and tell you of my dreaming
Dreaming is free

I don't want to live on charity
Pleasure's real or is it fantasy?
Reel to reel is living rarity
People stop and stare at me We just walk on by - we just keep on
dreaming

Feet feet, walking a two mile
Meet meet, meet me at the turnstile
I never met him, I'll never forget him

Dream dream, even for a little while
Dream dream, filling up an idle hour
Fade away, radiate

I sit by and watch the river flow
I sit by and watch the traffic go
Imagine something of your very own
Something you can have and hold

I'd build a road in gold just to have some dreaming
Dreaming is free
Dreaming
Dreaming is free
Dreaming
Dreaming is free

[Chris]

I'm afraid to tell you there are some teams that don't even KEEP stats during games, much less post stats.

[etown]

I'm afraid to tell you there are some teams that don't even KEEP stats during games, much less post stats.

The league must compile stats for every game, though. For one thing, I've never heard of a modern day professional sports leauge, no matter how small-time or in-debt it may be, that doesn't keep stats.

But they also have leader boards on their official website, which means that they are keeping stats -- they just aren't making the complete stats available on a player-by-player basis.

[Sam Hill]

The league must compile stats for every game, though. For one thing, I've never heard of a modern day professional sports leauge, no matter how small-time or in-debt it may be, that doesn't keep stats.


You've never heard of the ABA!

I doubt they're consistently kept. I'd imagine there are some teams that go the whole electronic boxscore route and some that have a kid with a scorebook like in high school. There's no consistency, there's no check to make sure things add up.

Those things cost money, and we all know how many ABA teams have money.

[Chris]

I've been trying to get Arkansas' stats from its game with Motown. Motown told the Arkansas stat crew that stats were not kept during the game, not even in a high-school scorebook. They have not been turned into the league.

[etown]

But they have to be keeping stats. If you check out the stats section of the official ABA website ( http://www.abalive.com/statistics/index.html ) you can see that they have leader-boards. So in order to have these leader boards, they have to have some sort of stat-tracking system in place.

[Sam Hill]

As evidenced above, that does not mean they're keeping track of every stat consistently at every game. Some are more professional than others about it (also as evidenced above). The league obviously has leaders (and farther down) in various categories, but neither you nor I have any idea how complete those statistics are.

It's GIGO. The stats you see are dependent on input from the teams, which have to collect them properly in the first place (a reach for some teams).

What more proof do you need that they're not handling statistics in a completely professional manner?