Great VIII 2008 Thread

[robster2001]

With the Deflated VIII scheduled to start tonight (but with no matchups listed on the Kebs' Great VIII site or on abalive.com), I thought it'd be a good idea to start a thread for game results and such... since they won't be found anywhere else... :)

According to a Vermont press release, Vermont plays San Francisco tonight at 5pm EDT.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Sadly, this thread will contain more coverage than the league website...

and frankly, more than any of the local media for the teams involved, aside from Vermont and Manchester.

If neither of those teams make the finals, the game may as well be played at an undisclosed location. The only coverage the league will receive in that case will come from this damned OSC...

[mikeyratt]

There's still an ABA???? who knew!

[williamhughes11]

According to what was discussed on the All-Star Game webcast and what the original schedule was, tonight's games are scheduled to be Vermont-San Francsico and Texas-Quebec. Tomorrow night's games are scheduled to be Manchester-Montreal and San Diego-Atlanta. Each night's winners play each other on Saturday.

Of course, this is the ABA, so the schedule is subject to change. :rolleyes:

At least all of the games will be webcast via PlayOn Sports (via the Quebec website), so we can spot any unusual activity that may occur (such as a basketball game being played). :rolleyes:

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

At least all of the games will be webcast via PlayOn Sports
The same PlayOn Sports that is a division of Turner Sports, which is itself a division of Time Warner - who also owns Sports Illustrated, which employs Alex Wolff.....

uh oh....

[LightningMan]

The same PlayOn Sports that is a division of Turner Sports, which is itself a division of Time Warner - who also owns Sports Illustrated, which employs Alex Wolff.....

uh oh....
Now cut that out!

[DazedAndAmused]

..so now the real conspiracy is out.

[tbayz1]

29-17 Vermont after 1

[preeths]

Just checking in for a couple minutes. Here are the PlayOn webcast links for the Great VIII:

Game #1: Quarterfinals 3/27- http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4414

Game #2: Quarterfinals 3/27- http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4415

Game #3:Quarterfinals 3/28- http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4416

Game #4:Quarterfinals 3/28- http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4418

Game #5:Semifinals 3/29- http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4419

Game #6:Semfinals 3/29- http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4420

Game#7: Championship 3/30- http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4421

[tops804]

Just checking in for a couple minutes. Here are the PlayOn webcast links for the Great VIII

According to the Frost Heaves website

Due to technical Difficulties, Tonight's Game is not available live. It will be archived for later viewing!

To the clubs credit, this is one of its few promises, not fulfilled....

However, it begs the questions. Did the Rumble show up? Who failed to plan?

[Alumni96]

Apparently their is some problem getting the broadcast out of the arena. Don't ask I don't know. The Radio broadcast is going and the game is being taped for archive. Its a little disappointing. Frost Heaves up by 16 at the half 57-41. Dwayne Lee is back in the lineup and playing very well. Thank god.

[Paul S]

Maybe Joes' quote "the check is in the mail" didn't quite cut it with Play On Sports! A division of Turner Sports.

[Alumni96]

Vermont wins 118-93. Game was closer than the final score. Lots of fouls and lots of free throws. Unfortunately the radio broadcast isn't going to cover the 2nd game. Should be interesting.

[Alumni96]

Maybe Joes' quote "the check is in the mail" didn't quite cut it with Play On Sports! A division of Turner Sports.

Supposedly tomorrow's games might be back on the webcast.

[Paul S]

Any mention on the crowd?

[Alumni96]

Radio broadcast said it was "small as expected". They also said that it began to fill up in the second half as fans made their way in for the Quebec game.

[Minor League Man]

How's the Kebs-Tycoons game going?

[tbayz1]

Texas 122
Quebec 120

[formerlyknownasfells]

Does anyone have the details on the Texas/Quebec game? I would have picked Texas by 10-15, but a two point victory tells me something about the Tycoons. (Well, or the officials trying to get the home team into the next round. Nah, that would never happen.)

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

Does anyone have the details on the Texas/Quebec game? I would have picked Texas by 10-15, but a two point victory tells me something about the Tycoons. (Well, or the officials trying to get the home team into the next round. Nah, that would never happen.)

http://www.dsfanboy.com/media/2006/02/Sarcasm.jpg

I'm sure there will be a comprehensive recap, with stats, etc., on ABAlive today.

(hopefully, there was someone there to write everything down):rolleyes:

[The Sweeper]

I'm sure there will be a comprehensive recap, with stats, etc., on ABAlive today.

(hopefully, there was someone there to write everything down):rolleyes:

The only "comprehensive recap" you'll see on ABAlive today that isn't written by a team would be Joe announcing the latest market reservation.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

The only "comprehensive recap" you'll see on ABAlive today that isn't written by a team would be Joe announcing the latest market reservation.

Or that the games are being televised to the far reaches of the Amazon rainforest..

<Please note, my sarcasm filter was not working properly on my previous post. It has been corrected>

:infun:

[The Sweeper]

I guess Manchester has already written the Frost Heaves off..

From a Millrats press release...

"The first game on Saturday will see a rematch of last year's ABA Championship Game between Vermont and Texas. Texas is still sour after being blown out by 48 points in the final. Both teams have somewhat different rosters, but the nucleus of each remembers what happened. Plus Vermont has lost two key players for the season including leading scorer Terrence Green, so look for the hyper-athletic and hungry Texas Tycoons to advance to this year's Final on Sunday."

[The Sweeper]

Game is now available on line...

http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4414

[formerlyknownasfells]

From Joe........

It was an amazing game, 122-120 with Quebec on the line with 2 free throws with 2 seconds to go, and missed both.

[The Sweeper]

Who was it that was on the line for Les Kebs?

[formerlyknownasfells]

Ya got me, he didn't say.

[turbocamyes]

Jonas Pierre--fouled on a dunk. He needed both free throws but missed the first and his second miss was fumbled away.

[TEN]

Am watching the archive of the Vermont/SF game and I have one question....

Where are the Heaves fans? Right before tipoff there is NOBODY sitting on one side of the arena...and it looks like eight to ten on the other side (behind the benches).

Man, I thought the 11 a.m. game at the USBL Tournament was a tough sell...

It looks like Quebec turned out in droves for the fan friendly affordable action!

[The Sweeper]

Most of the VT fans are on the side with the camera. The bus that was to go to Quebec City didn't garner enough riders so it was cancelled. Still trying to find a way there for tomorrow's game...

The Kebs-Tycoons game is now archived...(noticed that Chichester is one of the refs in the game)

http://event.playonsports.tv/frostheaves/?eventId=4415

[formerlyknownasfells]

I am trying to check out the Montreal/Manchester game and it says it hasn't started yet. Hmmmmmmmm, I have 5:24 Eastern Time and it was supposed to be a 5:00 tip. Technical glitches again?

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

as of 5:15 today, there is no coverage at all on the league website regarding the league post-season, save for the scores posted in the top right corner. They did post the Montreal/Jersey score, so that's a plus. But, there is still no acknowledgement of any 'play-in' games that may or may not have taken place on the west coast.

Oh, Joe's scintillating 'I Ask Me' segment is there talking about WHY they planned them, but nothing about the games that WERE actually played.

Also, maybe a bracket, or a prominently displayed - and league provided - schedule of games would be nice. You know, instead of the houseboat, the TV games that will begin 3 months ago, the TV games on a Chinese affiliated television something or other, the ad for PlayON (ADOTS), the ABA Travel drivel, the breaking news about the new ABA entertainment division (that seemed to work out well this year, no?), etc.

Sorry, I guess my idea for an informational website and Joe's are too radically different. My bad...

[Paul S]

the ad for PlayON (ADOTS), ...

Thats a good one ADOTS, that got me laughing.


I can see this Great VIII turning south in a hurry.


Hey Joe, if your sued in a civil court in Canada, you have to answer the summons in person. You have 40 days to respond if you are served in the USA. If you don't all the allegations are automatically deemed to be true. Just thought you'd like to know. Your friend Paul S.

[Alumni96]

According to the Manchester website, the millrats squeaked by the Royal in overtime 146-140.

[Paul S]

Sounds like a real defensive battle.

[TR Waters]

1 2 3 4 OT Final
0 74 30 29 13 146 Manchester
0 70 34 29 7 140 Montreal

[Frost Heaves Fan]

Sounds like a real defensive battle.

Paul S. you must be kidding. Defensive battle? The game was 146-140 not 86-80?

[tops804]

....is this quote from the final 8 website {Next to the PlayOn -- a division of
Turner Sports, thing}

The ABA Final 8 Championship, an event not to miss!

ABARedWhiteBlue -- You may want to trademark that "ADOTS" thing. You may
see it being used on the ABALive website, otherwise.

No San Diego/Atlanta game yet? 43 minutes after it started.

:mad: The ABA way!!!

[tops804]

Technical glitches again?

Yes, like...The equipment is still trying to get put on a truck in Burlington.
Let alone the need to get it through customs....

"When one fail's to plan...One plans to _______????"

You would think Joe would remember that from one of his sales courses....

I haven't checked yet...Did yesterdays games get put up by PlayOn yet? I'm
anxious to see the quality compared to Vermonts.

[Alumni96]

I remember during the webcast of the vermont game that they mentioned a bandwith problem. Like i know what that means.

[tops804]

...Leading me to wonder if they had to tape them, and upload them at a later
time.

Too bad a reason couldn't have been posted on ABAlive today....

[Jimmytwotimes]

Paul S. you must be kidding. Defensive battle? The game was 146-140 not 86-80?



take a joke man

[Paul S]

Paul S. you must be kidding. Defensive battle? The game was 146-140 not 86-80?

Thanks Jimmy........yes I was being sarcastic.

[Minor League Man]

So...any word on SD-ATL?

[formerlyknownasfells]

So...any word on SD-ATL?

I am pulling an overnight at the radio station so I will try and hunt one down.

[Paul S]

Fells are you on the air?

Can we listen online? Do you take calls?

[formerlyknownasfells]

Fells are you on the air?

Can we listen online? Do you take calls?

I was on from 9p-mid, now I am just making sure the building doesn't burn down, updating weather every hour, and trying to stay awake.

[Paul S]

Maybe you should sign up for the ultimate sales university course.

You can make some cold calls in the dead of night to future advertisers and seal the deal. with a family friendly, affordable business plan.

or you can sit back and laugh at Joe's funky little league and search for scores of games that may/may not have been played.

Did San Francisco Rumble really make it to 2uebec?

[formerlyknownasfells]

Maybe you should sign up for the ultimate sales university course.

You can make some cold calls in the dead of night to future advertisers and seal the deal. with a family friendly, affordable business plan.

or you can sit back and laugh at Joe's funky little league and search for scores of games that may/may not have been played.

Did San Francisco Rumble really make it to 2uebec?

Yup, they made it. I watched the replay of the game yesterday afternoon.

[Minor League Man]

Just found out the other semifinal game:

San Diego dominated Atlanta in a 145-99 shootout and will play Manchester in the semifinals.

1. If the WCBL is still going on (former IBL team Santa Barbara Breakers say they're joining), the Wildcats need to join!
2. So, this is the Vision's fourth season in the ABA...Will they stick it out again or close up? We'll see...
3. I'm thinking Joe is just setting the stage for a Millrats-Frost Heaves title game...GO RATS! (I'm rooting for them because it looks like they plan to join a legit league next year)

[tops804]

The final 4 match-ups...

Vermont vs. Texas 5 p.m.
Manchester vs. San Diego 8 p.m.

I think San Diego will beat Manchester. Vermont/Texas should be close, I'm
going with Vermont (The ABA needs a back to back champion....)

Actually, just having a team stick around for two consecutive years is an accomplishment in itself...:p

It seems like Texas either was supposed to, or did travel to Vermont for a few
games this season. Anyone remember the outcome?

[Paul S]

I think we need to give the ABA some credit here.

At least it wasn't a fix. I was genuinely expecting Quebec, Montreal, Vermont and Manchester in the final. I'm pleasantly surprised.

Its also sad that we've slid so low that we are expecting a fix and are pleasantly surprised when an actual fair game is completed, actually, any game completed.

[Alumni96]

Vermont lead after a quarter by 1. Lead has changed hands a number of times in the second.

[The Sweeper]

Texas was not scheduled to come to Vermont to play us. They did make a trip to Manchester in Feb 9. They beat the Millrats 123-122.

[Alumni96]

Vermont by 2 at the half. 52-50 I believe. Close back and forth game. Wish I could be watching it live.

[Alumni96]

Vermont with a late 3rd quarter run. Heaves lead 84-75 at the start of the 4th.

[formerlyknownasfells]

So much for the games being broadcast live, the feed is down again. Also, there aren't box scores, stats, or any information about the Great Eight other than the scores. So much for the playoffs actually being important......

[Alumni96]

Vermont up 101-98 with 55 secs left. Timeout Texas. Terrific game.

[The Magician]

So much for the games being broadcast live, the feed is down again. Also, there aren't box scores, stats, or any information about the Great Eight other than the scores. So much for the playoffs actually being important......

It's that great ABA Media/PR engine working OT, in the face of all adversity! :infun:

[Alumni96]

105-100 Vermont. 31 secs left. Timeout Texas. Dwuan Rice stepping up huge since Konare got hurt.

[Alumni96]

Final 106-100 Vermont over Texas. Fantastic game by both teams.

[tops804]

So much for the playoffs actually being important......

Not unless the players are willing to wear "Ultimate Sales University" logos on their jerseys. :rolleyes:

[The Magician]

Final 106-100 Vermont over Texas. Fantastic game by both teams.

Seen by about 200 people :eek: in the building, according to the VT Radio announcer.

It appears attendance at this year's ABA playoffs has been minuscule.

I guess, that's what you get, when the ABA League office puts in as little effort as possible to help support the host Quebec with this event ...

This league is never going to get it :confused:

[Alumni96]

Seen by about 200 people :eek: in the building, according to the VT Radio announcer.

It appears attendance at this year's ABA playoffs has been minuscule.

I guess, that's what you get, when the ABA League office puts in as little effort as possible to help support the host Quebec with this event ... :confused:

I know. I can't believe fans didn't fly in from Texas, San Diego, and Atlanta. In all seriousness, The Quebec game had around 1500+ fans on a Thursday night. Like any central location game the home teams attendance should be good the other games won't. It is only semi-pro basketball.

[The Magician]

It is only semi-pro basketball.

It's terribly confusing ... The ABA CEO keeps saying they are professional ??? :infun:

[robster2001]

It's terribly confusing ... The ABA CEO keeps saying they are professional ??? :infun:

Well, yes, but he's also claimed that he's professional, and we know how far THAT goes...

[TR Waters]

I thought the idea was to post about basketball?

And with that, San Diego leads Manchester at end of 1st qtr 25-24

[The Magician]

I thought the idea was to post about basketball?

And with that, San Diego leads Manchester at end of 1st qtr 25-24


Yes, you are right ... UCLA 76 Xavier 57 ... Final!

[Frost Heaves Fan]

Seen by about 200 people :eek: in the building, according to the VT Radio announcer.

It appears attendance at this year's ABA playoffs has been minuscule.

I guess, that's what you get, when the ABA League office puts in as little effort as possible to help support the host Quebec with this event ...

This league is never going to get it :confused:

200 People is SAD. Last year in Barre VT. It was sold out at 1600 capacity and people waiting at the door and looking in the windows. They should have had it in Barre. Because the Frost Heaves are in the Championship game again!!!!! Where is A1 when you need him? :p

[Frost Heaves Fan]

I thought the idea was to post about basketball?

And with that, San Diego leads Manchester at end of 1st qtr 25-24

OK TR Hemi. It will be San Diego by 4 points in the final.

[TR Waters]

San Diego 42 Manchester 41

[Alumni96]

I wouldn't count out Manchester just yet. They have the tools to score with San Diego. Like normal it'll be whoever plays the best D who comes out on top.

[Frost Heaves Fan]

I wouldn't count out Manchester just yet. They have the tools to score with San Diego. Like normal it'll be whoever plays the best D who comes out on top.

Yes Alum, you are absolutely correct but wouldn't it be nice if San Diego won!!!!

[Alumni96]

I think no matter who wins the Frost Heaves will have their work cut out for them, especially if Konare can't play tomorrow.

[TR Waters]

San Diego 77 Manchester 76

[formerlyknownasfells]

San Diego 77 Manchester 76

Go Manchvegas go!!! I want to see (On tape delay of course) another Heaves/Manchester game for the title.

[The Sweeper]

Sorry, Chris, but if what I read over at Manchester's web site is correct, San Diego beat Manchester 115-109 in overtime...


Watching WCAX, it was confimed...It will be #1 Vermont VS #3 San Diego tomorrow at 4 for the ABA Championship...

[tops804]

The final 4 match-ups...

Vermont vs. Texas 5 p.m.
Manchester vs. San Diego 8 p.m.

I think San Diego will beat Manchester. Vermont/Texas should be close, I'm
going with Vermont (The ABA needs a back to back champion....)


Sorry, Chris, but if what I read over at Manchester's web site is correct, San Diego beat Manchester 115-109 in overtime...


Watching WCAX, it was confimed...It will be #1 Vermont VS #3 San Diego tomorrow at 4 for the ABA Championship...

Watch...Joe will disqualify one of them now....Did San Diego have any players
with less than 3 regular season games played???

On the down side, I've got to believe it's going to be a small crowd on Sunday...

Go Manchvegas go!!! I want to see (On tape delay of course) another Heaves/Manchester game for the title.

Did you mean another "Titlebout"???

[formerlyknownasfells]

Watch...Joe will disqualify one of them now....Did San Diego have any players
with less than 3 regular season games played???

On the down side, I've got to believe it's going to be a small crowd on Sunday...



Did you mean another "Titlebout"???

Is there any word on the crowd for today's games?

[tops804]

Is there any word on the crowd for today's games?

Earlier in the this thread -- The Magician mentioned about 200 for the Vermont
game (according to the Vermont radio announcer). I haven't heard anything
else...It will be as big a secret as why the webcast's are lost in outer space
for so many hours.

[formerlyknownasfells]

Earlier in the this thread -- The Magician mentioned about 200 for the Vermont
game (according to the Vermont radio announcer). I haven't heard anything
else...It will be as big a secret as why the webcast's are lost in outer space
for so many hours.

Place your bets on tomorrow's crowd. I say about 400.

[tops804]

Place your bets on tomorrow's crowd. I say about 400.

I say, less then 200...Providing freebies, and buy one get one free's don't count.
I've got to believe some sort of blitz will go on to get people into those seats.

Quebec City doesn't want to embarrass the ABA --- Like say, the ABA has embarrassed Quebec City.

[hfxbballfan]

200 fans for a semi-final. Thats not even semi-pro.

Lets hope San Diego can pull it out today.

[tbayz1]

With a few hundred at the ABA playoffs/championship game, I'll be at the PBL championship game with thousands in attendence :)

Anyone else going to Rochester?

[TR Waters]

Whats in Rochester?

[Alumni96]

At the Half San Diego leads Vermont 44-41. Both teams are playing good defense.

[ABARedWhiteBlue]

NOT found on ABAlive - your home for the most important news and information that has nothing at all to do with basketball - the "B" in ABA.

Oh, there is a game story - from Vermont. But no score listed. No "Congratulations Frost Heaves" banner or posting, Lord knows nothing as archaic as stats.

As opposed to - oh, I don't know, the coverage another league has of their postseason: http://www.pblproball.com/playoffs/index.php

Oh, and Joe, since we are all dying to know, and it is one of the few things you seem to actually care about as it relates to the league.....

who won the houseboat drawing?:confused:

[Pounder]

NOT found on ABAlive - your home for the most important news and information that has nothing at all to do with basketball - the "B" in ABA.

That leaves the initials AA, you know.

"Hello, my name is Joe N, and I'm a market reservationholic."

[DazedAndAmused]

Whats in Rochester?

...about 10,000 fans watching a minor league championship game.

Quite a contrast.

[tbayz1]

...about 10,000 fans watching a minor league championship game.

Quite a contrast.

It was FIN-Tastic experience